Xu Yourong said, "If he doesn't come, the capital will inevitably fall into chaos and the Human race will enter a civil war that will be very hard to pacify."
Chen Changsheng said, "Taking wood out from the fire is his greatest skill."
"Authority over the Human race has long since ceased to have any meaning to him. What he cares about is the overarching situation."
Xu Yourong asked, "Why is it that in the Mount Song Army headquarters, in Wenshui, in South Stream Temple, and in White Emperor City, he has always retreated in the face of the Li Palace's attacks, finally becoming a man living in isolation? It isn't because of any kindness he holds toward you or some tender affection for all beings beneath the heavens. It is because he has a view on the overarching situation."
Chen Changsheng asked, "You are speaking of the northern expedition?"