Void_dragon_God

Yeah, you made it clear your knowledge is mostly from the anime and fanfics, which explains why your arguments are limited to surface-level logic. But here’s the thing if you’re going to criticize a character, especially calling someone a simp for Rias, you better understand the full context of who she is in the entire source material, not just from a watered-down adaptation like the anime. You can't ignore the original canon (Light Novel) and act like your opinions are absolute truths. That’s like judging a book just from its movie trailer. You talk about logic, yet you’re basing your entire argument from fanfics and Wiki summaries. That’s not logic that’s cherry picking whatever supports your bias. And about the Superman comparison yeah, it makes sense if we're talking strictly versions. But here's the difference, most serious fan discussions do refer to LN material because it's the main canon. The anime is a censored, toned-down version made for fanservice and quick attention. You keep using the wrong standard to argue something that goes deeper than just power scaling or simp tropes. This will be the last time I reply to you, because you're clearly steering the conversation away from the actual topic simping for Rias. You're just bringing up random points now to try and win the argument. That's not how a proper discussion works you're just throwing in whatever you can to change the topic and get the last word. And honestly, it's a waste of time at this point. If you’re not even trying to understand the bigger picture, maybe stop pretending like you know how the story really works especially when your entire stance is built on incomplete sources.

I’m not agreeing with that at all. Just because most fanfics are based on the anime doesn't mean we should keep justifying flawed writing or character choices. The light novel exists, and it gives a fuller, deeper picture of the DxD world. If anything, authors should be more responsible with the source they choose to adapt anime or LN and stay consistent with the tone and logic. And about slavery I still stand by what I said: no matter how 'noble' the excuse sounds, it’s still slavery. Power level doesn’t change that. Whether you’re weak or a god-tier MC, giving up your rights just to be part of a girl’s peerage isn’t loyalty it’s submission. There are smarter ways to protect someone or gain power than tying yourself to a master when you're already above them. So no, I’m not backing that logic. It's not about being edgy it’s about being honest with what makes sense in-universe. If you’ve got that kind of power, use it with dignity. Don’t throw it away just to be someone else’s pawn.

You're oversimplifying the whole situation just to make your point. Power doesn’t mean a person should handle everything alone. Sometimes, entrusting someone with your family's protection isn’t about strength it's about trust, connection, and making sure your loved ones are cared for even when you're not around. That’s not weakness that's foresight. and about abandoning his race? You’re twisting that narrative too far. The MC didn’t abandon anyone he just chose a different path. Power doesn’t lock you into one role or one side. If anything, his level lets him choose freely not because he’s weak, but because he’s beyond needing anyone’s permission. if he can beat Shiva in two minutes, then protecting his family isn't the issue it’s the principle. You're looking at strength like it's the only thing that matters. But sometimes, loyalty, trust, and the people you care about weigh more than raw power.

You know what really gets to me? A lot of you people hate based on what you hear or see without even thinking twice. You form opinions from rumors, short clips, or assumptions and never stop to ask yourselves, 'Is this actually true?' You let your hate build from the outside in, never bothering to clarify anything. That mindset? That rush to judge? It’s the real problem. And that’s exactly why one of the anime I love most is Naruto. Because he’s one of the few characters who truly understands people. He doesn’t just look at what someone has done he tries to understand why. He listens. He empathizes. Even when the world called him worthless, even when he was hated for something out of his control, he didn’t give in to that same hatred. He chose to understand instead. I admire that. Because in a world full of people quick to hate what they don’t understand, choosing to listen, to forgive, and to look deeper that takes real strength.

You can say whatever you want, but calling Rias 'trash' and a 'spoiled bitch who needs plot armor' isn’t an argument it’s just lazy hate. You clearly don’t understand her character beyond a few exaggerated traits shown in the anime. But alright, let’s play by your logic if I suddenly said your mama is trash and a spoiled bitch who needs your father to survive, would you argue with that? Of course you would. Not because it’s true, but because it’s a baseless insult with no context just like what you’re doing with Rias. You're not proving anything by yelling insults. You’re just exposing how shallow your take really is. If you have an actual point, make it. But if all you've got is name-calling, don’t expect to be taken seriously.

and now You're acting like I’m ignoring the plot, but I'm not. I know the story. What I’m pointing out is how you suddenly shifted the argument. We were originally debating about simping for Rias then out of nowhere, you started pulling in plot points that don’t even exist in the actual DxD light novel. Are you seriously just twisting things to fit your own take? Stick to the argument. Don’t throw in random scenarios from the fanfic and try to treat them like canon facts. You're moving the goalpost mid-conversation, and it’s obvious You sound like someone who watches anime clips on TikTok and thinks they’ve read the whole light novel

Did she fix all her peerage’s problems in the light novel? No because it’s not her job to magically erase everyone’s trauma. She gave them a second chance, not a perfect life. And no, she didn’t hide the truth from them. Most of them already knew the core of their situations she didn’t manipulate anyone into joining her. She offered a path forward. They chose to walk it. Yes, the anime and the light novel have differences and honestly, they’re more than just minor. The anime oversimplifies her character to make room for fanservice and pacing. In the light novel, she’s far more emotionally complex dealing with pressure, duty, and her own identity as a noble and a woman. Is she perfect? No. She’s 17, learning to lead in a political system designed to break people. But calling that a weak excuse is just dismissing character growth entirely. And honestly it’s funny. People like you make me laugh. You clearly don’t know what’s really going on, but still have the nerve to twist the story to fit your narrative. It’s like you watched random clips on social media and suddenly think you’re an expert. Maybe next time, read the source material before acting like you understand the full picture.

That’s the thing all those 'simple solutions' you listed only make sense if we ignore how the actual DxD universe works. Owning a Longinus, reaching Ultimate Class, or having a mutated Sacred Gear doesn’t automatically give you immunity from the system. Power doesn’t erase structure. Even if you’re stronger than Lucifer himself, the moment you step into the supernatural world, you’re playing by its rules whether you like it or not. And about the MC being 'already on par with Lucifer' if he’s that strong, then joining Rias’s peerage wasn’t a downgrade, it was a conscious choice. Not every decision is about gaining power. Sometimes it’s about trust, connection, or having people you can rely on in a world where everyone wants to use you. Yes, Rias isn’t a bad master and that’s the point. She’s not some tyrant controlling everyone. Her peerage isn’t made up of slaves; it’s made up of people she saved or supported. They chose to serve under her because they respected her, not because they were weak. And in return, she treats them like family. So if you're already stronger than Rias, sure, she could join your harem but that's assuming she wants to. Power doesn’t automatically mean someone should follow you. It’s not about who’s stronger, it’s about who you trust, who you align with, and what kind of life you want to live. Also, since we’re talking about a fanfic Reincarnated in the World of High School DxD keep in mind this fanfics bend the rules. But if you’re comparing it to canon, then you also need to respect the internal logic of the DxD universe. Power helps, yeah but relationships, loyalty, and choice still matter.